Re: Multiple votes from Bill Wall

[Carsten Eiram <che@riskbasedsecurity.com>]

I find this to be an honest mistake that was quickly corrected, and it should be acceptable to do so. We shouldn't have a rule that prevents a board member from changing an obviously incorrect vote, but I agree that we should not change rules mid-process. In this case, however, we may not have to. 

According to voting rule #3, we require a reason to be given for a choice. Granted it does not say if the reason has to make any sense, but I presume that is somewhat implied. Or am I overinterpreting the voting rules and any random, illogical reason goes?

Certainly, it can get murky, if we suddenly have to evaluate whether or not given reasons make sense or not, but we should at least reject votes with obviously bad reasons. From the original vote it was clear that something was wrong, as the argument for option B was: "Easier for vulnerability scanners in 6-digit fixed length". Option B is neither a fixed length nor 6 digits. 

My thoughts on this are that it would be reasonable to consider the first cast vote as invalid due to the erroneous reason given. The second vote has valid reasons that match the options and should be considered valid.

/Carsten

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Andy Balinsky (balinsky) <balinsky@cisco.com> wrote:

While I realize that changing the rules during a vote is irregular, the original rule to me seemed to be without any purpose. If it had a purpose, it seems that a misunderstanding of the ballot should be a stronger purpose than whatever original purpose there was.

I can understand the purpose if you have >1 vote from different individuals in an org. Then the rule avoids having to litigate who is the legitimate rep for that org. But in the case of a misunderstanding, it seems an unnecessary restriction.

Maybe in the end, it will not matter, but if option B wins by 1 vote, based on a misunderstanding, I think the board will have to revisit the decision.

Just my thoughts.

Andy

On May 16, 2013, at 2:54 PM, "Christey, Steven M." <coley@mitre.org> wrote:

> Bill,
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> Today you sent two separate ballots to the Board list.  Your first ballot, which was valid, seemed to prefer Option B, but then 2 hours later, you sent a DIFFERENT ballot that switched to Option A, and you changed your reasons.
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> According to the voting rules, the first valid vote from a Board member is used and cannot be reversed:
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>       8. No changes to a vote will be accepted; no reclama.
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> While these rules are pretty clear, it would be useful to be clear about what your real intention was, and why the switch occurred.
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> Thank you,
> Steve